Banjo Parts, Companies, and Vendors
A banjo-l post from Doug Hutchens

Dave,
In response to your questions about banjo parts, companys, and vendors.
 
You are right on the mark about the single piece pot metal flange. Gibson's were made by Doler & Jarvis Diecasting in Toledo. The die that the flange(and the same die is used today as the first one was made in the late 20's) weighs according to those who has seen it probably 3,000 pounds, It is approximately two feet square solid steel. You could imagine the cost in todays world to create such a peice of equipment not to mention the equipment used to put the molten pot metal into it. The flanges come from this die almost ready to go. They do have to have the flashing cleaned up and minor cosmetic work done.
 
As to my knowledge the Gibson mold and the Saga mold are the only two potmetal dies that exist for a gibson style single piece flange from pot metal. Jimmy Cox at one time did a pot metal type composite type flange but his was poured then machined much like the brass and bronze single piece flanges that have been made.
 
As to the resonator question.
 
Gibson used to make all parts of the wood rim and resonator until the later Kalamazoo days. When they went to the milti ply rims they went to multi ply sidewalls as well but continued pressing the back plates themselves. Today Gibson as well as many of the other builders buy rims and resonator walls from Cooperman Drum and Fife company who purchased the Stu-Mac equipment several years ago.
 
Much of the metal hardware such as brackets, nuts, t-hoops tailpieces as always were made by outside vendors. Again it is not worth it to buy all the equipment to make all the parts. Now if you want a part made a certain way, they can be done. Stellings tonrings and flanges don't interchange with others so they are done with Jeffs patented wedge fit where as many others will interchange.
 
In the 20's and 30's there were vendors as there are today.
 
Kix Stewart once told me that they borrowed an armrest from Harry Sparks to make the die for the armrest they now sell. The first armrest cost $10,000. You've got to sell alot of armrest to recoup investments like that. Grover, and Waverly were early vendors that provide many tuners, t-hoops, armrest, tailpieces(notice if you get the chance the engravings on grover 2 and 4 hump clamshell tailpieces, the same engraver did the engraving on Vegaphone, Maybell, as well as Deluxe,Granada, Bella Voce, Florentine, and All American, I hope to be able to show that in my series of identification booklets I'm working on.
 
Very Special items like top tension hoops are another story. Faulkner did the first reproductions that I know of in the late 60's, they were ok but not great. Siminoff did some which weren't bad, Mark Taylor did some, Stelling had some done, but the only place I know you can get them today is Berlile, he makes them for R&T and Gibson and for sale to the individual buyer, he was the first to make a top tension armrest and the bolts exactly like the old ones. But Jim had to want to do that, there wasn't enough of a market for him to really make any money unless he just wanted to do something special.
 
As far as tuners, if you go back to the 50's and 60's Kluson's were used on the 150's and 250's the cheap grover pancake style were on 100s. Vegas used the same.
 
Ode did the banjo world a great favor when they did the tooling on a ne edition of the planet tuners, Vega started using them while Gibson stayed with the Kluson and Grover until the late 60's and when Shaller came into the picture.
 
Shallers have been the tuner since the early 70's, mainly because of the cost. Shaller would Stamp what ever company on the housing to make them more personal to the company. Recently the stu-mac 5 star tuners, which is basically the same as the Ode of the 60's has been used by a few manufacturers because to the unreliability of shallers from time to time and the cost rising.
 
As far as Stu-mac and FQMS, Stu-mac bought the old waverly tooling and continues today to make various components,many using old fixtures and dies from the 20's and 30's, whereas FQMS makes neck blanks but buys practically all metal parts from others, many parts from Stu-mac,Jimmy Cox , Jim Berlile and others. Thier tonerings come from another source.
 
Tone rings are each banjo companys secret weapon, Gibson uses the Koulish, Stelling has his made to his specs, Deering does the same, as does Mark Taylor.
 
The tonering along with the inlay and shape of the pegheads are the two real distinguishing features of banjos, even if the other parts are different they do the same job. With the exception of the Neckville line.
 
Some places do thier own pearl inlay others contract it out, as it has been done since the beginning. As a matter of fact thats the way the Deering's got started, they were doing contract neck and resonator work for Stelling, and we all can see the good things they are doing for the world of the banjo.
 
As far as what you are getting in a major brand instrument it is the same as its always been. Its kind of like the different kind of cookies that are on the supermarket shelves, they use the same sugar, raisins, chocolate go into them but its the way the batter is stirred and the temperature its cooked and the TLC that makes the difference.
 
I've been a banjoholic since the early 60's and can't imagine who I'd be if Ihadn't been associated with the instrument and the folks who love them. They are truly a good bunch of people.
 
Doug
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